Author Topic: Casey Anthony (Read 8782 times)

Punk · « **on:** July 06, 2011, 06:49:12 pm »

I know I will get shit for making this thread, but someone had too

What do I think of the decision? It's bullshit. At least child abuse or something that will extend her prison time. The bitch got off with a 4 year sentence... BAH.

K i n g o f K i n g s · « **Reply #1 on:** July 06, 2011, 08:29:36 pm »

Quote from: Punk on July 06, 2011, 06:49:12 pm

I know I will get shit for making this thread, but someone had too

What do I think of the decision? It's bullshit. At least child abuse or something that will extend her prison time. The bitch got off with a 4 year sentence... BAH.

She hasn't been sentenced yet, just not guilty on everything except for 3 or 4 counts of lying to police. She will likely be free on Thursday as she has served 3 years already, awaiting trial.

Myst · « **Reply #2 on:** July 06, 2011, 09:01:32 pm »

it was tough for the prosecution to argue what they wanted and to want the death penealty, with no DNA evidence and circumstantial evidence.

Loud · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2011, 09:14:01 pm »

"beyond a reasonable doubt"

It'll keep ya sprung.

track · « **Reply #4 on:** July 06, 2011, 10:46:22 pm »

Its interesting how they don't even fully understand how the child died yet..

Soup · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2011, 12:25:51 am »

Quote from: track on July 06, 2011, 10:46:22 pm

Its interesting how they don't even fully understand how the child died yet..

I did not mean to thank this, I meant to quote it

First off, they probably will never know. It's been three years, in case you, like a lot of people, didn't know that. An autopsy couldn't be performed because it was bones by the time they found Caylee.

Quote from: Punk on July 06, 2011, 06:49:12 pm

What do I think of the decision? It's bullshit.

Nah, prosecution blew it, if I was a juror, the decision would have been the same.

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The bitch got off with a 4 year sentence... BAH.

They are deciding what the sentencing will be tomorrow I believe, and she already served somewhere around 3 years. Many people believe she might walk the day she gets her new sentencing, so we'll see what happens.

Now how the fuck do I un-thank

LeerRosh · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2011, 12:50:21 am »

Just want to add, if prosecution went for aggravated manslaughter, they might have gotten her. But a Florida jury isnt going to convict someone for the death sentence with only circumstantial evidence and the only forensics being chloroform and the hair being matched. Casey Anthony knows what happened, and she probably won't be seen in Florida for the rest of her life after this, but hell who knows?

Loud · « **Reply #7 on:** July 07, 2011, 09:48:25 pm »

Pretty bold of you to speak on behalf of the juries of Florida.

And naive to believe that things like juries can be seen in such clean cut ways.

Soup · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2011, 01:01:57 am »

She's getting out in 9 days, in case you guys haven't heard.

Horse · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2011, 01:26:14 am »

Quote from: «ŠøûþÐøĢĢ» on July 08, 2011, 01:01:57 am

She's getting out in 9 days, in case you guys haven't heard.

the kicker is, in one of her little online blog things or whatever they call it when she was in jail
she was talking about adopting another child when she gets out
WIN!

warrior · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2011, 10:31:13 am »

Everyone gets a fair trial. Even Casey Anthony. The prosecution was incompetent.

LeerRosh · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2011, 10:10:27 am »

Hey she got a jury of her peers. Morons, just like her. Until one of them speaks out with a good reason, that statement stands. The defense team was not responsible while the prosecution was responsible. Incompetent? I disagree.

K i n g o f K i n g s · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2011, 11:21:34 am »

Quote from: LeerRosh on July 11, 2011, 10:10:27 am

Hey she got a jury of her peers. Morons, just like her. Until one of them speaks out with a good reason, that statement stands. The defense team was not responsible while the prosecution was responsible. Incompetent? I disagree.

Morons? I disagree. I agree with them in the idea that there is doubt. Why would they want to speak out? The decision they made is highly controversial and having so much as their names release could get them killed by fanatics. I think the defense did an awful job and the prosecution didn't do much better. I was in Florida through about half the case. The local news was live streaming from the trial.

warrior · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2011, 05:24:41 pm »

The jury can only go with what they're presented. They were presented with highly circumstantial evidence and a lot of their supposed lab examinations lacked quality control which brought them into question (the hair and air samples for example).

Prosecution did a piss poor job of making the case that she was guilty. It was rather embarrassing for them, to be honest.

We are all afforded the same protections under the law. Due process being one of them.

LeerRosh · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2011, 06:39:32 pm »

Mind you, I don't disagree with the murder charge, I am pissed about the child abuse charge being innocent. Child abuse was obvious.

And no, the defense team was irresponsible, point made, right from the get-go. You can tell simply by the body language.

Colby · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2011, 06:47:59 pm »

warrior · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2011, 10:57:35 pm »

How was the defense irresponsible? Define irresponsible and why you think they fit that description. I'm sure you're well aware the they are not the ones required to prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Correct?

Myst · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2011, 01:31:25 am »

Atleast something good will come upon this unfortunate case.

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Caylee-s-Law-to-be-offered-1461812.php

Where it will be a felony to not report a child missing within 24hrs of the child missing.

warrior · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2011, 02:30:00 am »

Stupid law which plays more to emotions than to common sense. Not even modern forensics can have the kind of accuracy which we'd need to determine a violation like that (Reporting a child death within 1 hour). I think we should try to avoid legislating laws that everyone has to follow based on a knee jerk response to incompetent prosecutors.

The system is not broken. The system worked. The state could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty, so she got off. Period. Regardless of if she did it or not, the law is quite clear. On the flip side, when you're dealing with something like personal liberty then the need for such stringent requirements for proof is perfectly justified.

The insane things others are proposing (like gutting double jeopardy or changing how juries work) are the entirely wrong thing to do.

Myst · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2011, 03:50:46 am »

wtf you talking about warrior. It's legislation about missing children. Not Death.

warrior · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2011, 09:21:00 am »

Read the proposed legislation. It makes it a felony to not report missing children within 24 hours, or a dead child within ONE hour.

Which speaks to the point I'm making that legislation made in such a reactionary manner is not good legislation. Every time a high profile case ends, someone tries to make a law to solve a problem which is not really a problem.

What about psychological barriers to reporting children missing? 24hours seems arbitrary to me. Has she consulted with law enforcement? Coroners? Psychologists? No, no, and no.

LeerRosh · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2011, 10:22:12 pm »

Jessica's law worked well, and Caylee's law is a PROTECTION OF CHILDREN. If you find your child dead and don't report it in 2 hours, what the heck is wrong with you? 90% of Americans find Casey guilty, and guess what, we are an emotional people! So we refuse to allow this to happen again. I'm sorry, but I agree with Nancy Grace, the devil is dancing tonight.

As for irresponsible defense, how is blaming her parents for things WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE in any way a responsible defense? That's just like politics, instead of offering a solution, they blame the competition.

Myst · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2011, 11:58:25 pm »

Why do you always agree with morons. Nancy Grace.... come on... Fox News..... come on...
Nancy is entitled to her opinions but the way she lashed out was unbecoming of her profession. Even her colleagues and other personnel in her field thinks the way she went about all this was wrong.

warrior · « **Reply #23 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:43:58 am »

Quote from: LeerRosh on July 13, 2011, 10:22:12 pm

Jessica's law worked well, and Caylee's law is a PROTECTION OF CHILDREN. If you find your child dead and don't report it in 2 hours, what the heck is wrong with you? 90% of Americans find Casey guilty, and guess what, we are an emotional people! So we refuse to allow this to happen again. I'm sorry, but I agree with Nancy Grace, the devil is dancing tonight.

We don't have the technology to enforce it. Our forensics can say "he was killed X amount of hours ago" but it cant be as precise as "he was killed 45 minutes ago, or two and a half hours ago". So its not that its a bad law, as much as its an unenforceable law.

I'll reiterate again, there may be certain psychological conditions which prevent a person from reporting a missing child in what many would consider to be a timely manner. First it'd be productive to learn more about how humans react to such grief, and come up with less than arbitrary numbers.

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As for irresponsible defense, how is blaming her parents for things WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE in any way a responsible defense? That's just like politics, instead of offering a solution, they blame the competition.

It is not relevant. The only relevant part is this: In the United States, you are legally guaranteed due process and equal protection under the law. Including requiring proof beyond a reasonable doubt to remove your freedom. The prosecution was unable to prove she was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, so she walks. Her being guilty or innocent does not matter, her having lied, misled, or otherwise misinformed anyone does not matter. What matters is the failure of the prosecution to get a conviction.

What the American people think about her guilty or innocence, quite frankly, does not matter. She is a free woman.

LeerRosh · « **Reply #24 on:** July 14, 2011, 09:54:59 pm »

The moment Casey Anthony walks out for jail in Florida, America will be a poorer place. This woman's negligence and apathy towards her precious two-year-old daughter, Caylee, eliminates her as a responsible citizen. She's simply another barbarian who couldn't even be bothered to protect her baby.

Debate Anthony's acquittal on murder charges all you want; the woman is not innocent. She should not be walking free. Therefore, another adjustment must be made to serve justice in America and to protect the kids: Caylee's Law.

At this point, 18 states are pursuing new laws that would make it a felony not to report a missing child within a couple of days. Each state is deciding on the time frame. The intent of the law is to compel derelict parents like Casey Anthony to alert authorities should something bad happen to their children. You may remember that Anthony told no one her daughter was missing for 30 days. If Caylee's law had been in place, Casey Anthony would be going to prison right now.

There are Americans who object to any new laws, believing the states already have enough power. But when it comes to protecting defenseless kids, that point-of-view doesn't wash. A few years ago, ten-year-old Jessica Lunsford was murdered by a convicted child sex offender, John Couey, who never should have been walking free. After that horrible crime, 44 states passed a version of Jessica's Law mandating long prison terms for convicted child rapists. The result: No longer is much of America plagued by misguided judges giving heinous child predators light sentences.

You have to wonder why Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Vermont, Idaho, and Colorado have failed to pass Jessica's Law. You also have to question why anyone would oppose Caylee's Law. There is simply no excuse for any parent or guardian not to alert authorities when a child under the age of 12 goes missing. And 12 is the age most states are targeting for the new law.

With the Supreme Court legalizing virtual child pornography, and the internet providing child predators with the most powerful, perverse tool they've ever had, society must come to grips with the dangers presented to all children.

Casey Anthony is a narcissistic sociopath who got away with the death of her daughter. Whatever happened, she bears an enormous responsibility. There is no way this woman should be walking free, and all Americans should shun her.

The larger question of protecting kids remains frustrating. This week, eight-year-old Leiby Kletzky was walking home from day camp in a secure Brooklyn neighborhood. A few hours later, authorities found the little boy's dismembered body. Police believe the man responsible will be convicted of murder.

But that's what many of us believed about Casey Anthony. It didn't happen. So we must provide even more protection for the children of this country. Pass Caylee's Law now.