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Title: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on April 08, 2011, 11:33:39 am
Fuck.  Yes.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 08, 2011, 12:26:58 pm
Even though i don't get to see that portion of fox news over here in Canada (which is a good thing), i get to hear a lot about him on shows such as Dailyshow with Jon Stewart, Colbert Report and sometimes on Realtime with Bill Maher.

But from what i heard, i do strongly believe he is a total nutjob that deserved to get axed.

Not sure if you watch Dailyshow with Jon Stewart Rick, but last night it was hilarious. I remember Jon doing a similar sketch before and it turned out very well.


Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Crisis on April 08, 2011, 08:36:11 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-to-transition-_n_845573.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-to-transition-_n_845573.html)

"axed" is a bit of an overstatement, don't you think?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on April 09, 2011, 12:59:32 pm
I think Fox doesn't want to admit that Glenn Beck is a fucking idiot and they are, therefore, fucking idiots for having put him on national television for the past couple years. ::)
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 09, 2011, 05:03:04 pm
It's probably because the crazy one has officially jumped the ship and drowning in stupidity by huge amounts of paranoia.
The crazy fad is coming to a halt, which is only going to help the democrats in some way.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 10, 2011, 02:38:00 am
Even though i don't get to see that portion of fox news over here in Canada (which is a good thing), i get to hear a lot about him on shows such as Dailyshow with Jon Stewart, Colbert Report and sometimes on Realtime with Bill Maher.

But from what i heard, i do strongly believe he is a total nutjob that deserved to get axed.

Not sure if you watch Dailyshow with Jon Stewart Rick, but last night it was hilarious. I remember Jon doing a similar sketch before and it turned out very well.

dude, all three of those are well-known for being misleading. 

Also, Beck chose to quit Fox, not the other way around.  He doesn't need the TV show anymore as he makes enough money elsewhere.  Like O'Reilly said, he founded out ACORN, and thats quite an achievement.

And Nico, your political analysis is shit.  The only card the democrats have is Obama, and he has proven to be a weak leader.  All the other party has to do to win is get their act together, but really, they don't need to outdo obama, they just need to take the senate.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 10, 2011, 02:56:30 am
Even though i don't get to see that portion of fox news over here in Canada (which is a good thing), i get to hear a lot about him on shows such as Dailyshow with Jon Stewart, Colbert Report and sometimes on Realtime with Bill Maher.

But from what i heard, i do strongly believe he is a total nutjob that deserved to get axed.

Not sure if you watch Dailyshow with Jon Stewart Rick, but last night it was hilarious. I remember Jon doing a similar sketch before and it turned out very well.

dude, all three of those are well-known for being misleading. 

Also, Beck chose to quit Fox, not the other way around.  He doesn't need the TV show anymore as he makes enough money elsewhere.  Like O'Reilly said, he founded out ACORN, and thats quite an achievement.

And Nico, your political analysis is shit.  The only card the democrats have is Obama, and he has proven to be a weak leader.  All the other party has to do to win is get their act together, but really, they don't need to outdo obama, they just need to take the senate.

To be honest, from what i hear, there isn't any real contender to go against Obama at this point.
Donald Trump might be a force to reckon with, but if he pulls it through... being the business man he is, i know for sure hes gonna make the US go into the shits.

I won't take you serious Leerrosh, so let's leave it at that.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 11, 2011, 03:38:53 pm
3 things:
1) Its LeerRosh.  Don't disrespect the name, that man has honor, which is why I use his name in everything I do.
2) Obama has a 40% approval rating, and a 39% disapproval rating.  So thats 21% thats open, and 16% of that slightly disapprove of obama, and thats recent as of today according to gallup and reuters polls.  So yes, he does have a force to deal with, himself.  He is stuck between a Barack and a hard place.
3) Donald Trump has some slights, but he probably will run.  And if he picks up Michelle Bachmann, its going to be a close race.  But like I said, in the end, the country needs to turn around.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 11, 2011, 03:52:49 pm
3 things:
1) Its LeerRosh.  Don't disrespect the name, that man has honor, which is why I use his name in everything I do.
2) Obama has a 40% approval rating, and a 39% disapproval rating.  So thats 21% thats open, and 16% of that slightly disapprove of obama, and thats recent as of today according to gallup and reuters polls.  So yes, he does have a force to deal with, himself.  He is stuck between a Barack and a hard place.
3) Donald Trump has some slights, but he probably will run.  And if he picks up Michelle Bachmann, its going to be a close race.  But like I said, in the end, the country needs to turn around.

America doesn't need money grabbing retards, there's enough of them fucking you guys over in Wall Street, or have you not learned that lesson.

1. Who the fuck is LeerRosh? only one i see is you. And why are you still not banned?
2. His Approval rating is only low because the way Obama is spending time getting around to things. It took a year to do anything bout the healthcare debate.
3. Donald Trump is not only a business man, but hes a showmen. Did you see in a recent interview what he said? If he became the president of America, it will be the greatest con to pull in the history of America. Michelle Bachmann is a giant twat, just like Sarah Palin.

Republicans are only going to lose once again, I think America has had enough of the crazies talking about hate & mass paranoia.

Oh and who let you out of the cage?

Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Skye~ on April 11, 2011, 04:58:53 pm
3 things:
1) Its LeerRosh.  Don't disrespect the name, that man has honor, which is why I use his name in everything I do.
Who gives a shit.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: warrior on April 11, 2011, 06:23:23 pm
In two years Obama:
- Passed a 787 billion economic stimulus which reversed a GDP contraction by 6% points and represented the biggest investment in alternative energy and high speed rail EVER. Significant investment in infrastructure, plugged a bunch of state budgets to prevent lay offs, and according to the CBO, created or saved an estimated 4 million jobs. We went from losing 700,00 jobs a month to gaining 200,000 jobs a month.

- Reformed Student Loan programs by cutting out the bank middle men who did nothing but ensure that Federal funds changed hands, they literally did nothing, except charge fees for being the middle man.

- Reformed the ENTIRE Health insurance sector, outlawed rescision and preexisting conditions, shaved a full 2% off of Medicare growth rates ensuring its solvency for another decade, began to significantly bend the cost curve downward over the next 10, 20, and 50 years. He created low cost , high risk insurance pools, and eliminated the downward spiral by having an insurance coverage mandate. What he has done in effect is to save our Federal Budget from complete and utter destruction in the medium term.

- Reformed the financial sector by reinstating FDR era rules which kept banks regulated, as well as placing new restrictions (especially on the house of cards that was securities trading). He gave the FDIC power to unwind large banks in the same manner that they do small banks, essentially formalizing the protocol to follow when banks become to big to fail. This proven unwinding has actually resulted in a net tax payer profit.

- He SAVED without a doubt SAVED our auto sector. General Motors would NOT EXIST without President Obama. He pulled them back from the brink, at a time where he was getting flak from every side. Remember the idiots saying let GM go bankrupt and LAY OFF the over half a MILLION employees they had? Fucking morons.

- Restored civil rights to LBGT Americans by repealing Dont Ask Dont Tell.

- Signed a historic Nuke treaty with Russia

He did this in TWO YEARS. He got 85% of what liberals wanted in Health Care Reform which is every liberals wet dream. He fucking DID IT. In TWO YEARS. What the fuck more could people want, I simply dont understand how people can say Obama has "failed to lead" or has no experience, when he's skillfully and artfully outmaneuvered the Republican Opposition (to anyone who remembers the Clinton years, they really hurt him, Obama has by comparison gotten by unscathed thus far).

I mean seriously, at this rate, the liberal agenda will be completely implemented by the end of Obama's second term. Good fucking LUCK to Conservatives if Obama wins again, the mandate he'll have will include Immigration Reform, Education Reform, and even more Healthcare changes. Mark my words.

The Republican party is over. Conservatism is a brain cancer we eradicated in 2008. The Tea Party and hard righties will fail under the weight out their own extreme stupidity.

They spent so much money electing Republicans, only to be completely IGNORED in Congress. The Tea Party caucus was utterly SHUT OUT of budget negotiations in the House. Morons. You've been had.

Obama is poised to shatter records and raise a BILLION dollars for 2012, no conservative, no combination of conservatives, stands a goddamn chance.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 11, 2011, 06:36:56 pm
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In two years Obama:
- Passed a 787 billion economic stimulus which reversed a GDP contraction by 6% points and represented the biggest investment in alternative energy and high speed rail EVER. Significant investment in infrastructure, plugged a bunch of state budgets to prevent lay offs, and according to the CBO, created or saved an estimated 4 million jobs. We went from losing 700,00 jobs a month to gaining 200,000 jobs a month.

- Reformed Student Loan programs by cutting out the bank middle men who did nothing but ensure that Federal funds changed hands, they literally did nothing, except charge fees for being the middle man.

- Reformed the ENTIRE Health insurance sector, outlawed rescision and preexisting conditions, shaved a full 2% off of Medicare growth rates ensuring its solvency for another decade, began to significantly bend the cost curve downward over the next 10, 20, and 50 years. He created low cost , high risk insurance pools, and eliminated the downward spiral by having an insurance coverage mandate. What he has done in effect is to save our Federal Budget from complete and utter destruction in the medium term.

- Reformed the financial sector by reinstating FDR era rules which kept banks regulated, as well as placing new restrictions (especially on the house of cards that was securities trading). He gave the FDIC power to unwind large banks in the same manner that they do small banks, essentially formalizing the protocol to follow when banks become to big to fail. This proven unwinding has actually resulted in a net tax payer profit.

- He SAVED without a doubt SAVED our auto sector. General Motors would NOT EXIST without President Obama. He pulled them back from the brink, at a time where he was getting flak from every side. Remember the idiots saying let GM go bankrupt and LAY OFF the over half a MILLION employees they had? Fucking morons.

- Restored civil rights to LBGT Americans by repealing Dont Ask Dont Tell.

- Signed a historic Nuke treaty with Russia

He did this in TWO YEARS. He got 85% of what liberals wanted in Health Care Reform which is every liberals wet dream. He fucking DID IT. In TWO YEARS. What the fuck more could people want, I simply dont understand how people can say Obama has "failed to lead" or has no experience, when he's skillfully and artfully outmaneuvered the Republican Opposition (to anyone who remembers the Clinton years, they really hurt him, Obama has by comparison gotten by unscathed thus far).

I mean seriously, at this rate, the liberal agenda will be completely implemented by the end of Obama's second term. Good fucking LUCK to Conservatives if Obama wins again, the mandate he'll have will include Immigration Reform, Education Reform, and even more Healthcare changes. Mark my words.

The Republican party is over. Conservatism is a brain cancer we eradicated in 2008. The Tea Party and hard righties will fail under the weight out their own extreme stupidity.

They spent so much money electing Republicans, only to be completely IGNORED in Congress. The Tea Party caucus was utterly SHUT OUT of budget negotiations in the House. Morons. You've been had.

Obama is poised to shatter records and raise a BILLION dollars for 2012, no conservative, no combination of conservatives, stands a goddamn chance.

This.

Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on April 11, 2011, 07:03:05 pm
Glenn Beck was a product of conservative ideologies runamuck.

I'm pretty sure he got axed because Fox realized he's hurting more than he's helping. They're going to retreat to the left a little bit, but they'll be back, oh lordy they'll be back. And in greater numbers.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 11, 2011, 08:20:01 pm
You mean in 2 years Obama accomplished what LIBERALS wanted.  What about us independents?

Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on April 11, 2011, 08:31:02 pm
I am sorry to inform you good sir, that at some point in time (this we do not know) your political affiliation changed, and you were never given notice. Your new political identity appears to be conservative. Very conservative.

Don't fret, political affiliation is all just a figment of our imaginations. It only exists because we keep talking about it. If you don't play into the system you may just start to understand what motivates it and how it works. Until then, have fun being affiliated, suckaa.

Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 11, 2011, 08:57:42 pm
What about us independents?



That part is very astonishing, and pretty unlikely to even be true.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 11, 2011, 09:30:53 pm
whoa.  whoa.  whoa.  Conservative?  Hello, I am not on an all out spree to kick obama out of office.  I don't care whether the person in office is a democratic, republican, tea party, or even a marijuana party candidate.  I want to see a leader in the oval office, the people's representatives making laws, and a Supreme Court balancing it out.  Lastly I want an America that is at least decently run, that has few scandals, gives every american a chance, and protects us from foreign powers.

How you go about it is your party affiliation.  Since I don't care HOW, thats me being an independent.  I watch bill o'reilly, not rush limbaugh.

duh WINNING
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: EternalReaper on April 11, 2011, 09:34:11 pm
3 things:
1) Its LeerRosh.  Don't disrespect the name, that man has honor, which is why I use his name in everything I do.
Who gives a shit.

Him obviously... Ya that stupid?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: K i n g o f K i n g s on April 11, 2011, 09:35:36 pm
whoa.  whoa.  whoa.  Conservative?  Hello, I am not on an all out spree to kick obama out of office.  I don't care whether the person in office is a democratic, republican, tea party, or even a marijuana party candidate.  I want to see a leader in the oval office, the people's representatives making laws, and a Supreme Court balancing it out.  Lastly I want an America that is at least decently run, that has few scandals, gives every american a chance, and protects us from foreign powers.

How you go about it is your party affiliation.  Since I don't care HOW, thats me being an independent.  I watch bill o'reilly, not rush limbaugh.

duh WINNING
You are definitely conservative. you being independent makes me look communist.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 11, 2011, 09:44:07 pm
idk...nothing wrong with communism in theory....
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: warrior on April 11, 2011, 09:56:39 pm
Like I said, conservatism is a cancer. I can't say im upset that they have no say in Government. As a result, millions of jobs have been created under this President.

If you want an independent agenda getting advanced in Congress (whatever the fuck that is, being independent is ridiculous as hell in a two party state, you basically split the vote and cost elections) then elect an independent President. Oh wait, nothing would get done, because he'd be constantly fighting with Congress.

Surely you can see how stupid your positions are, and why you should take up more sensible ones like my own.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 11, 2011, 10:16:07 pm
^^ i knew you couldn't stay away warrior, i couldnt begin this argument without you and your side of the story.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Wardragon on April 11, 2011, 10:25:33 pm
He wasn't really axed, more like he quit. He is gonna run for president. Watch.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: K i n g o f K i n g s on April 11, 2011, 10:34:16 pm
idk...nothing wrong with communism in theory....
Actually, in theory communism is perfect however, people suck.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 11, 2011, 10:43:15 pm
idk...nothing wrong with communism in theory....
Actually, in theory communism is perfect however, people suck.
exactly.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: warrior on April 11, 2011, 10:45:29 pm
Now, is imperfect communism, or imperfect socialism, better than imperfect capitalism? I'd argue yes, because it trends more along the lines of morality whereas capitalism is very cutthroat and amoral.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 11, 2011, 10:51:36 pm
Now, is imperfect communism, or imperfect socialism, better than imperfect capitalism? I'd argue yes, because it trends more along the lines of morality whereas capitalism is very cutthroat and amoral.
you seem to be overlooking the bad parts of communism and socialism.  in those, people have zero power.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: warrior on April 11, 2011, 10:57:25 pm
in corporatist america, you still have no power. there are plenty of good examples of socialism working in Europe, its actually the shining beacon for a model society in the world.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on April 11, 2011, 11:35:56 pm
Communism is a novel idea, but I can't think of any examples where communism was definitively good. Or even just okay. In most cases didn't it end in those in power being corrupt, and the proletariat ended up starving and freezing?

Doesn't sound like something I'd vote for (unless I was assured to be in a position of power).
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: warrior on April 12, 2011, 12:07:58 am
I just think we were fed bad communism. A lot of the Marx-Lenin branches of communism are bad in that they place the power in one centralized ruling entity. More Eurocommunism style communism is a lot more moderated, and attempts to reach consensus through peaceful means. To establish things as the norm gradually, and on their own merits, rather than by the force of the ruling party.

My main problem with communism was the insistence on a forceful proletarian revolution. It is my opinion that such things will arise gradually and spontaneously, as the working many outnumber the bourgeois few. That, and the need for a ruling party just spells trouble to me.

To me, worker rights, centralized planning, all that is very good and can be applied without the harsh effects of the more rugged communist elements of Marx-Lenin.

Eurocommunism is really closer to social democracy that's prevalent in Europe, and even that, is a hell of a step more progressive than the insanity we have in the United States.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: DeCi on April 12, 2011, 12:46:54 am
this has nothing to do with the current conversation taking place in this thread, but..
http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck (http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck)

:)
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 12, 2011, 12:50:08 am
this has nothing to do with the current conversation taking place in this thread, but..
[url]http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck[/url] ([url]http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck[/url])

:)


As a joke, i voted "Life is not worth Living" Lol.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: steve on April 12, 2011, 04:33:21 am
I'm not big into politics but from what i do know i think Glenn Beck is too outspoken and goes 100% with absurd opinions. He changes his views a lot tho so it makes him look dumb when he contradicts himself so much.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 12, 2011, 10:41:21 am
this has nothing to do with the current conversation taking place in this thread, but..
[url]http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck[/url] ([url]http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck[/url])

:)


As a joke, i voted "Life is not worth Living" Lol.

im actually interested in the results of that poll.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on April 12, 2011, 10:48:58 am
this has nothing to do with the current conversation taking place in this thread, but..
[url]http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck[/url] ([url]http://www.billoreilly.com/poll-center?glenn_beck[/url])

:)


As a joke, i voted "Life is not worth Living" Lol.

im actually interested in the results of that poll.


Last time i checked, 4% of people voted for "Life is not worth Living"... i lol'd....
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on April 12, 2011, 10:55:54 am
^^Well duh thats a bit extreme dont u think?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Tagban on April 18, 2011, 11:22:12 am
Honestly, glad Glenn is gone. Hopefully he gets sent to Iran or something. In the mean time, referring to Warrior's post:

As much as I am an Obama supporter to a point, I think High Speed Rail is a waste of money. We can build low energy jets that do the same thing, and will actually be used all the time. There is a lot of debate over this, but honestly, why would I sit on a train for 8 hrs when I can fly in 4, and for cheaper?

Given the cost of the High Speed rail projects, ticket prices are going to have to be astronomical to offset the cost.

I say, might as well keep researching matter<>energy transporter technology, and stop trying to rely on old ideas with a new "bling".

But at the same time, planes are fairly older technology nowadays also. Almost all of the planes in the air are over 15 yrs old. They need to invest the money they've been banking from consumers on newer, lighter, and more fuel efficient aircraft. Considering that Boeing has a couple billion in assets, they could fund the research and open their own 'Green Airline'.

Oh well. Rambles suck.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on April 18, 2011, 12:21:35 pm
No: we move to transportation that can be run by electricity rather than oil (magnetic levitation), and then get our energy from the sun and wind.  One word: Japan.

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_likoa3xXWn1qhlt85o1_500.jpg)

edit: also, we need to start moving away from plastics and polystyrene too.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on April 18, 2011, 05:01:45 pm
@Tagban: Agreed on the flying vs. other means of transit, but a rail system has benefits beyond just travel. More of its benefits lay in its ability for transportation of goods rather than people. It's been shown time & time again that investment into infrastructure pays off. It would create jobs & help the US to (hopefully) reduce costs of transit of goods, which theoretically should help to keep the cost of goods down.

It sounds great on paper, we'll see how it translates to action.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on April 18, 2011, 05:13:32 pm
@Loud: agreed, except...

which theoretically should help to keep the cost of goods down.

That's not quite the whole picture (sorry, minor rant).  The cost of goods in this country is often dictated by government systems, rather than the market.  Take sugar for example (the second most profitable crop, tobacco being the first).  The cost of sugar in this country is basically triple (roughly 22c/lb) compared to the cost of sugar worldwide (roughly 7c/lb).  The reason is we actually subsidize the sugar companies and guarantee this price.  That means a few things: if you need sugar in America, you pretty much have to buy American sugar, and we consume a lot of sugar; if the industry produces more sugar, the government buys the excess; both prices paid (industry and government) are at the guaranteed price of ~22c/lb.

We're basically getting robbed twice in the same transaction.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: warrior on May 21, 2011, 12:05:15 pm
Given the cost of the High Speed rail projects, ticket prices are going to have to be astronomical to offset the cost.

Nope. Multiplier effects in the economy from people having jobs building the rail is going to offset the cost all by itself. For example:
Let's say  high speed rail creates 10 jobs: That's 10 people making wages, and having disposable income which go out and shop, which keeps the people working at the places they shop employed so they shop (and keep others employed, etc..), and increases the bottom line of those companies, who hire more workers, and the cycle just goes on.

Oh, and as for commodity prices: Volatile prices are volatile. There's so much white noise in those prices its nearly impossible to pin down one specific policy which is positively or negatively affecting them.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on July 14, 2011, 09:36:20 pm
A month or so ago, we switched tv service providers and guess what?! I got to see how bad this Glenn Beck guy is and holy fuck... within 3 minutes i wanted to knock his ass to the ground.

Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on July 14, 2011, 09:56:22 pm
A month or so ago, we switched tv service providers and guess what?! I got to see how bad this Glenn Beck guy is and holy fuck... within 3 minutes i wanted to knock his ass to the ground.
Anti-American much?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: warrior on July 14, 2011, 11:42:28 pm
A month or so ago, we switched tv service providers and guess what?! I got to see how bad this Glenn Beck guy is and holy fuck... within 3 minutes i wanted to knock his ass to the ground.
Anti-American much?

Glenn Beck is everything that is wrong with America. I'm embarassed to live in the same country as some of the idiots on Fox News(And frankly some on MSNBC too, but for different reasons).
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on July 15, 2011, 01:56:44 am
A month or so ago, we switched tv service providers and guess what?! I got to see how bad this Glenn Beck guy is and holy fuck... within 3 minutes i wanted to knock his ass to the ground.
Anti-American much?

No, i am just anti-idiot. Plenty of Americans hate Glenn Beck too you know.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on July 15, 2011, 03:39:23 am
There is a huge difference between hate...and disagree.  The guy has a huge patriot show going on.  Disagreeing with him is normal.  Hating him is evil.  Hating anything is evil, and don't you forget it.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on July 15, 2011, 10:50:54 am
There is a huge difference between hate...and disagree.  The guy has a huge patriot show going on.  Disagreeing with him is normal.  Hating him is evil.  Hating anything is evil, and don't you forget it.

Hating him is evil? LOL! You crack me up. Hating anything isn't evil. I hate east Indian food cause i find most of it too spicy, doesn't mean it's evil. LeerRosh, please grow a brain.

By the way, you can be patriotic and not be an egotistical lunatic. But to me, what made me feel like punching out Glenn Beck was because of the those few sheer minutes he was spewing bullcrap out of his mouth & i felt like he needed his ass kicked.

GB is a paranoid ass-backwards topsy-turvy lunatic that poisons young minds.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: ɥǝnяʎ ıן on July 15, 2011, 03:30:08 pm
who isn't nowadays
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on July 19, 2011, 12:53:46 pm
There is a huge difference between hate...and disagree.  The guy has a huge patriot show going on.  Disagreeing with him is normal.  Hating him is evil.  Hating anything is evil, and don't you forget it.

Hating him is evil? LOL! You crack me up. Hating anything isn't evil. I hate east Indian food cause i find most of it too spicy, doesn't mean it's evil. LeerRosh, please grow a brain.

You dislike indian food.  Hate is a stronger emotion, and it is never the right thing.  There is a difference between hate and justice.  Say Hitler.  It is wrong to hate Hitler, however, it is right to stop the evil things he does out of love for those he hurts.  That is justice, and that is the difference.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on July 19, 2011, 03:06:08 pm
There is a huge difference between hate...and disagree.  The guy has a huge patriot show going on.  Disagreeing with him is normal.  Hating him is evil.  Hating anything is evil, and don't you forget it.

Hating him is evil? LOL! You crack me up. Hating anything isn't evil. I hate east Indian food cause i find most of it too spicy, doesn't mean it's evil. LeerRosh, please grow a brain.

You dislike indian food.  Hate is a stronger emotion, and it is never the right thing.  There is a difference between hate and justice.  Say Hitler.  It is wrong to hate Hitler, however, it is right to stop the evil things he does out of love for those he hurts.  That is justice, and that is the difference.

LeerRosh, if i ever get to meet you in person... remind me to knock your ass to the ground so i can shit kick you Italian style.

And really? Hate & Dislike are actual synonyms.


Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on July 19, 2011, 05:15:32 pm
There is a huge difference between hate...and disagree.  The guy has a huge patriot show going on.  Disagreeing with him is normal.  Hating him is evil.  Hating anything is evil, and don't you forget it.

Hating him is evil? LOL! You crack me up. Hating anything isn't evil. I hate east Indian food cause i find most of it too spicy, doesn't mean it's evil. LeerRosh, please grow a brain.

You dislike indian food.  Hate is a stronger emotion, and it is never the right thing.  There is a difference between hate and justice.  Say Hitler.  It is wrong to hate Hitler, however, it is right to stop the evil things he does out of love for those he hurts.  That is justice, and that is the difference.

LeerRosh, if i ever get to meet you in person... remind me to knock your ass to the ground so i can shit kick you Italian style.

And really? Hate & Dislike are actual synonyms.



But they are different words.
And don't try this I will kick your ass crap, you won't.  Ive been beaten bloody before, but I always win the fight.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on July 19, 2011, 05:47:53 pm
And don't try this I will kick your ass crap, you won't.  Ive been beaten bloody before, but I always win the fight.

I highly doubt that.
You clearly haven't seen me pissed off, now go scamper off you angry conservative nutcase.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on July 19, 2011, 06:44:49 pm
This philosophical slant is hurting both of your cases.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on July 22, 2011, 03:43:18 pm
And don't try this I will kick your ass crap, you won't.  Ive been beaten bloody before, but I always win the fight.

I highly doubt that.
You clearly haven't seen me pissed off, now go scamper off you angry conservative nutcase.

I take offense to being called conservative.  I am a registered independent, I do not believe in going conservative because conservatives are wrong just as often as democrats are.  Very few can break that line, and I can only name 2 that I trust otherwise, Bill O'Reilly and Senator Rubio.

This philosophical slant is hurting both of your cases.

Philosophy ignores God, and Science without Religion is lame.

On the other hand, Religion without Science is blind.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on July 22, 2011, 10:04:36 pm
Philosophy ignores God, and Science without Religion is lame.

On the other hand, Religion without Science is blind.

/Facepalm....

You clearly haven't heard a lot of philosophical quotes from the greats & actually science would easily probably be far well off without religion, but you would probably most likely think other-wise in your topsy~turvy universe.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on July 24, 2011, 01:25:44 am
Wow you're stupid.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on July 28, 2011, 02:45:14 am
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Crisis on July 28, 2011, 03:04:38 am
Einstein also happened to be agnostic.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on July 29, 2011, 03:20:56 am
Einstein also happened to be agnostic.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on July 29, 2011, 07:01:56 pm
Wow you're stupid.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on August 03, 2011, 06:08:55 pm
Wow you're stupid.

I imagine this is like high-fiving yourself. I'm disappointed.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Smartass on August 03, 2011, 09:43:13 pm
And don't try this I will kick your ass crap, you won't.  Ive been beaten bloody before, but I always win the fight.

I highly doubt that.
You clearly haven't seen me pissed off, now go scamper off you angry conservative nutcase.

E-words are sooooo strong.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on August 03, 2011, 10:49:12 pm
Dumbass.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on August 04, 2011, 12:11:17 am
I imagine this is like high-fiving yourself. I'm disappointed.

My points are salient and succinct.  I'm the Hemingway of bnetweb.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on August 23, 2011, 04:09:56 pm
little funny comparing yourself to Hemingway.  Didn't he have like 4 wives over his lifetime?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on August 23, 2011, 07:21:44 pm
He's not even that cool. I've had 5 since the start of this thread.

@painkuh: lul
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on August 24, 2011, 12:54:28 am
little funny comparing yourself to Hemingway.  Didn't he have like 4 wives over his lifetime?

Wait a sec, are you also unfamiliar with the American canon?  Tsk tsk bro.  I knew you were uneducated, but I didn't know how uneducated.  Impressive.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 13, 2011, 01:34:44 am
Beck is back!  http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html#/v/1156448225001/becks-back-in-no-spin-zone/?playlist_id=86923 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html#/v/1156448225001/becks-back-in-no-spin-zone/?playlist_id=86923)
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on September 13, 2011, 11:22:21 pm
Where's Jesus?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 15, 2011, 12:55:36 am
Where's Jesus?
In heaven, waiting for the right time, which according to the limited knowledge we have, will be anywhere from 2013-2125.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Crisis on September 15, 2011, 07:18:34 pm
why 2013-2125?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on September 15, 2011, 08:27:37 pm
Where's heaven?
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 16, 2011, 12:31:00 am
If there were a God, I bet he'd be a Muslim.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 16, 2011, 01:54:10 am
Where's heaven?

Its a place in China, its their version of Bed Bath & Beyond cept with hot chicks.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 16, 2011, 09:44:47 am
No such thing as a heaven, or a hot chinese, or an intelligent thought in the mind of lear roosh.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 16, 2011, 09:50:29 am
why 2013-2125?
that is the 121st year of jehovah, which is supposedly the time he comes back, but like i said, based on limited knowledge.

No such thing as a heaven, or a hot chinese, or an intelligent thought in the mind of lear roosh.
nice troll attempt.

Glenn Beck is still back.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: ɥǝnяʎ ıן on September 16, 2011, 10:16:19 am

Glenn Beck is still back.
the no one here cares at all cup is back, stop trying to tell everyone, because it's obvious no one cares
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 16, 2011, 10:27:56 am
Glenn Beck has done to conservatives what the nazi's did to the swastika. And lea roth still thinks he's great. Just like one of those dumbass Germans who were roused to action by Hitler's highly emotional speeches. I feel that's essentially leeh rosh's reactions to Beck.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 16, 2011, 11:40:27 am
No such thing as a heaven, or a hot chinese, or an intelligent thought in the mind of lear roosh.


Here's proof:
(http://bullzdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Sexy-asian-girl.jpg)

The rest i agree upon with sir loud here.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 17, 2011, 11:11:55 pm
She's a fraction chinese at most. I stand by my statement.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 18, 2011, 11:24:18 am

Glenn Beck is still back.
the no one here cares at all cup is back, stop trying to tell everyone, because it's obvious no one cares
but yet that's about the only thing that follows the topic of the thread now isn't it?  and its not a blatant troll attempt on anybody, its a point in order to get a response, rather than a flame on someone's character that you do not even know.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: ɥǝnяʎ ıן on September 18, 2011, 02:44:52 pm
troll attempt? if i wanted to troll you i would, just pointing out the obvious.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 18, 2011, 05:13:55 pm
troll attempt? if i wanted to troll you i would, just pointing out the obvious.
i never said u were.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: daddy on September 18, 2011, 07:54:51 pm
troll attempt? if i wanted to troll you i would, just pointing out the obvious.
duh, half this forum calls everything a troll if they have no argument to it.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 19, 2011, 10:56:28 am
in reply i was referring to loud.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 19, 2011, 07:38:37 pm
LieRosh, where did I attempt to troll you in this thread. I described my view on your reactions to Glenn Beck and that's bout it. If that's blatant trolling, I'll eat my fucking keyboard.

This:
duh, half this forum calls everything a troll if they have no argument to it.

& Nomoar name experimentation, I'm stickin' with LieRosh. ;)
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 21, 2011, 03:00:52 am
no loud, your trolling is your attempting to pull my ire by spelling the name wrong every time.  its quite obvious, and pointless.  got old real fast. 

im amazed u misunderstood that, we both know you are quite aware of how you dishonor the man who saved my life.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 21, 2011, 10:33:41 am
no loud, your trolling is your attempting to pull my ire by spelling the name wrong every time.  its quite obvious, and pointless.  got old real fast. 

im amazed u misunderstood that, we both know you are quite aware of how you dishonor the man who saved my life.

Loud trolling? I did not see such thing at all.
Maybe you are just mentally challenged Leerrosh, if i called you special, the actual special kids would be offended.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 21, 2011, 11:04:47 am
no loud, your trolling is your attempting to pull my ire by spelling the name wrong every time.  its quite obvious, and pointless.  got old real fast. 

im amazed u misunderstood that, we both know you are quite aware of how you dishonor the man who saved my life.

Loud trolling? I did not see such thing at all.
Maybe you are just mentally challenged Leerrosh, if i called you special, the actual special kids would be offended.
You must be blind.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 21, 2011, 02:45:52 pm
I dishonor nobody but you, but in that post I wasn't even doing that.

& you can feel free to misspell my name. I can show you how a civilized & educated person would react to such tom-foolery, rather than falling back on your ever-present debate ender ("TTRRROOOLLLL!")

I wish I had met you in real life rather than over the internet, then I could tell you face to face how delusional the 'reality' you live in is. Now quickly, scurry back to fox news to implant yourself with more misinformation so that you can be the fuel to power the conservative machine that so lovingly tramples those it claims to 'protect'.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 21, 2011, 06:29:54 pm
no loud, your trolling is your attempting to pull my ire by spelling the name wrong every time.  its quite obvious, and pointless.  got old real fast. 

im amazed u misunderstood that, we both know you are quite aware of how you dishonor the man who saved my life.

Loud trolling? I did not see such thing at all.
Maybe you are just mentally challenged Leerrosh, if i called you special, the actual special kids would be offended.
You must be blind.

Actually, i am not. I can see quite well.
What i just said to you is trolling, Loud isn't at all trolling.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on September 21, 2011, 07:26:26 pm
the man who saved my life.

How did this slip through the cracks?  Is he talking about Glenn Beck?  Dude...LOL!
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 22, 2011, 12:45:54 am
I dishonor nobody but you, but in that post I wasn't even doing that.

& you can feel free to misspell my name. I can show you how a civilized & educated person would react to such tom-foolery, rather than falling back on your ever-present debate ender ("TTRRROOOLLLL!")

I wish I had met you in real life rather than over the internet, then I could tell you face to face how delusional the 'reality' you live in is. Now quickly, scurry back to fox news to implant yourself with more misinformation so that you can be the fuel to power the conservative machine that so lovingly tramples those it claims to 'protect'.
Misinformation?  You call Fox News conservative and you blame them for misinformation?  No buddy, if we met in real life, I would easily push any attacks you have away from me.  I deal in opinions based on facts and figures.  and fox news easily beats any "information" you may have for me, considering they always beat the polls, every time, consistently.
the man who saved my life.

How did this slip through the cracks?  Is he talking about Glenn Beck?  Dude...LOL!
um, Leer Rosh maybe?  I only know Glenn Beck as a guest speaker on the O'Reilly Factor, although I am considering joining GBTV if the reviews are good.  No, Leer saved my life when I was 13.  That's all you need to know.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 22, 2011, 06:01:30 pm
Misinformation?  You call Fox News conservative and you blame them for misinformation?  No buddy, if we met in real life, I would easily push any attacks you have away from me.  I deal in opinions based on facts and figures.  and fox news easily beats any "information" you may have for me, considering they always beat the polls, every time, consistently.

You admittedly deal in faith, which leads me to believe you may not have completely developed the ability to deal in facts and figures.

And if you deny Fox News to be a conservative news outlet, then I have to wonder what you would call them?

And Fox News beats what polls? You just spew out random shit with no reference to any type of fact.

EDIT: Yes misinformation. Weapons of mass destruction. Remember how many of those we found in Iraq? We invaded them to get those dangerous, dangerous WMDs out of Saddams evil, evil hands. Wait there were none? Oh, well we actually invaded them to spread democracy.

But if we're invading countries based on their citizens need for freedom/democracy then why didn't we go after North Korea? Darfur? Egypt?

Because that's not what any of this has been about. But many were misinformed to believe otherwise. Fox News had a big hand in spreading this info. These are facts. You may have faith that fox is something more than just a dispensary of conservative double-talk, but thank God (not your god either) faith does not establish legitimacy. Facts establish legitimacy, and everything I've posted has been fact.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 23, 2011, 04:46:44 am
fact?  -1
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 23, 2011, 11:32:59 am
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: ɥǝnяʎ ıן on September 23, 2011, 08:28:42 pm
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
you mean they don't?

...:(
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 23, 2011, 08:35:42 pm
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
you mean they don't?

...:(

Sorry buds, but then again what you may have seen was Horse with an erection.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 26, 2011, 12:29:37 am
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
This goes for you too Nico: You reap what YOU sow.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Crisis on September 26, 2011, 06:46:10 am
no YOU reap what YOU sow!!
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 26, 2011, 10:05:42 am
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
This goes for you too Nico: You reap what YOU sow.


I am a realist, i think logically majority of the time and i am Agnostic-Atheist.
No, what you say doesn't apply to me. Sorry Lamerosh.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 29, 2011, 11:57:16 am
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
This goes for you too Nico: You reap what YOU sow.


I am a realist, i think logically majority of the time and i am Agnostic-Atheist.
No, what you say doesn't apply to me. Sorry Lamerosh.
no buddy, you are anti-semitic. you arent the kind that doesn't care about religion, you go out of your way to bash it.  thats low.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Horse on September 29, 2011, 03:50:44 pm
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
This goes for you too Nico: You reap what YOU sow.


I am a realist, i think logically majority of the time and i am Agnostic-Atheist.
No, what you say doesn't apply to me. Sorry Lamerosh.
no buddy, you are anti-semitic. you arent the kind that doesn't care about religion, you go out of your way to bash it.  thats low.

so.... Nico hates Jews?!

I don't think you know what anti-Semitic means, Leerosh
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 29, 2011, 05:38:54 pm
fact?  -1

Fact is Lamerosh lives in a topsy~turvy universe where unicorns prance on grassy fields.
This goes for you too Nico: You reap what YOU sow.


I am a realist, i think logically majority of the time and i am Agnostic-Atheist.
No, what you say doesn't apply to me. Sorry Lamerosh.
no buddy, you are anti-semitic. you arent the kind that doesn't care about religion, you go out of your way to bash it.  thats low.

so.... Nico hates Jews?!

I don't think you know what anti-Semitic means, Leerosh

Just cause i don't care bout religion doesn't mean i am anti-Semitic Lol.
Lamerosh needs to grow a brain it seems.

Besides, i only bash Religion for the obvious bullshit not cause of the people. But then again, i do dislike most idiots who follow in blind faith to a religion with so much bigoted & sexist history.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on September 29, 2011, 08:23:45 pm
The bible never defines anti-semetism, so it's no surprise lierosh doesn't know what it means...
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on September 30, 2011, 01:07:10 am
Guess what, that means Christians, because Christians are jews that have found their messiah. 

And it isn't blind faith, its a leap of faith.  There is proof, it just takes a short leap of faith to connect the dots.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 30, 2011, 02:16:42 am
Guess what, that means Christians, because Christians are jews that have found their messiah. 

And it isn't blind faith, its a leap of faith.  There is proof, it just takes a short leap of faith to connect the dots.

Want to know the harsh reality of all of this?

The Romans ( mostly Italian ancestors ) killed Christ, and chose to set it's headquarters in Italy; It's a giant middle finger.

By the way Lamerosh, there is a such thing called blind faith, its when you shut your eyes from everything else (including ignoring the truth) while following a religion.

A leap of faith is when the person is desperate enough.

You really need to get proper definitions for these things before typing Lamerosh or you will look like a total idiot.. which already is too late.

Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: pikachu on September 30, 2011, 06:24:06 pm
Yeah, so Christians aren't Jews.  Being anti-faith (or even anti-Christian) isn't being antisemitic.  Generally speaking, that terms refers to the race of Jews (i.e. Israelites).  I'm pretty (not positive though) that you do not descend from the Israelites--and in any case, your explanation doesn't hold any water.

How do you not realize how stupid you are?  Oh wait, Dunning-Kruger strikes again!
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Nico on September 30, 2011, 08:27:08 pm
Yeah, so Christians aren't Jews.  Being anti-faith (or even anti-Christian) isn't being antisemitic.  Generally speaking, that terms refers to the race of Jews (i.e. Israelites).  I'm pretty (not positive though) that you do not descend from the Israelites--and in any case, your explanation doesn't hold any water.

How do you not realize how stupid you are?  Oh wait, Dunning-Kruger strikes again!

I guess the only thing that couldn't save Lamerosh was his intelligence :(
"god" can only do oh so much ya know? Lawls.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: Loud on October 01, 2011, 12:42:00 am
God lives and dies in the minds of man.
Title: Re: Fox News Axed Glenn Beck
Post by: LeerRosh on October 01, 2011, 01:34:48 am
Why, hello Loud.